[tor-relays] Responding to Tor censorship in Russia

Dear relay operators,

Today the torproject.org was officially blocked in Russia. You can read
more about the situation here[1].

Russia is the country with the second largest number of Tor users, with
more than 300,000 daily users or 15% of all Tor users.

As it seems this situation could quickly escalate to a country-wide Tor
block, it's urgent that we respond to this censorship!

We need your help NOW to keep Russians connected to Tor!

We are calling on everyone to spin up a Tor bridge.

If you've ever considered running a bridge, now is an excellent time to
get started, as your help is urgently needed. You can find the
requirements and instructions for starting a bridge in the Help Censored
Users, Run a Tor Bridge blog post: Help Censored Users, Run a Tor Bridge | The Tor Project

Gus

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gus,

Since all of my exit nodes are within the same /16 - would I have to run bridges on newly acquired IPv4 space?

John

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From: tor-relays <tor-relays-bounces@lists.torproject.org> On Behalf Of gus
Sent: Tuesday, December 7, 2021 2:16 PM
To: tor-relays@lists.torproject.org
Subject: [tor-relays] Responding to Tor censorship in Russia

Dear relay operators,

Today the torproject.org was officially blocked in Russia. You can read more about the situation here[1].

Russia is the country with the second largest number of Tor users, with more than 300,000 daily users or 15% of all Tor users.

As it seems this situation could quickly escalate to a country-wide Tor block, it's urgent that we respond to this censorship!

We need your help NOW to keep Russians connected to Tor!

We are calling on everyone to spin up a Tor bridge.

If you've ever considered running a bridge, now is an excellent time to get started, as your help is urgently needed. You can find the requirements and instructions for starting a bridge in the Help Censored Users, Run a Tor Bridge blog post: Help Censored Users, Run a Tor Bridge | The Tor Project

Gus

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I'm still learning on how to manage my server, is it ok to run the
bridge even if it has some weeks uptime and then will be down for
another few weeks?

binarynoise

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Am Dienstag, dem 07.12.2021 um 17:16 -0300 schrieb gus:

Dear relay operators,

Today the torproject.org was officially blocked in Russia. You can
read
more about the situation here[1].

Russia is the country with the second largest number of Tor users,
with
more than 300,000 daily users or 15% of all Tor users.

As it seems this situation could quickly escalate to a country-wide
Tor
block, it's urgent that we respond to this censorship!

We need your help NOW to keep Russians connected to Tor!

We are calling on everyone to spin up a Tor bridge.

If you've ever considered running a bridge, now is an excellent time
to
get started, as your help is urgently needed. You can find the
requirements and instructions for starting a bridge in the Help
Censored
Users, Run a Tor Bridge blog post:
Help Censored Users, Run a Tor Bridge | The Tor Project

Gus

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Quoting John Ricketts (2021-12-07 21:40:24)

Since all of my exit nodes are within the same /16 - would I have to run
bridges on newly acquired IPv4 space?

If is a different IPv4 (even in the same /16) it should be fine. AFAIK up to now
censors block by IP not by range, and /16 looks like a big range to block
without problems.

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Quoting binarynoise (2021-12-08 19:41:31)

I'm still learning on how to manage my server, is it ok to run the
bridge even if it has some weeks uptime and then will be down for
another few weeks?

If the bridge is going to be down for few weeks might be better if you wait to
host it after the down time has passed.

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Hi

Since all of my exit nodes are within the same /16 - would I have to run bridges on newly acquired IPv4 space?--

A bridge has no `family´. An entity running bridge and exit generates an
end-to-end situation and might not be what we want.

Cheers, Felix

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That's what I was thinking... I run 100 exit nodes. I'd like to get more opinions.

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From: tor-relays <tor-relays-bounces@lists.torproject.org> On Behalf Of Felix
Sent: Thursday, December 9, 2021 8:04 AM
To: tor-relays@lists.torproject.org
Subject: Re: [tor-relays] Responding to Tor censorship in Russia

Hi

Since all of my exit nodes are within the same /16 - would I have to
run bridges on newly acquired IPv4 space?--

A bridge has no `family´. An entity running bridge and exit generates an end-to-end situation and might not be what we want.

Cheers, Felix
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That's what I was thinking... I run 100 exit nodes. I'd like to get more
opinions.

From: tor-relays <tor-relays-bounces@lists.torproject.org> On Behalf Of
Felix Sent: Thursday, December 9, 2021 8:04 AM
To: tor-relays@lists.torproject.org
Subject: Re: [tor-relays] Responding to Tor censorship in Russia

> Since all of my exit nodes are within the same /16 - would I have to
> run bridges on newly acquired IPv4 space?--

A bridge has no `family´. An entity running bridge and exit generates an

Unfortunately this is a bad design flaw. :frowning:

end-to-end situation and might not be what we want.

An entity that wants to exploit the end-to-end situation just does it under
fake names. Well-known and proven operators cannot help the Tor project.
We actually want to do the same thing as John. Known exit operators who want
to set up several 100 bridges.

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On Thursday, December 9, 2021 3:11:25 PM CET John Ricketts wrote:

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Debian GNU/Linux

It's free software and it gives you freedom!

So we want bridges without contact info and from unknown persons / state agencies?

I am sure there is nothing with this excellent plan that could possible go wrong.

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A bridge has no `family´. An entity running bridge and exit generates an end-to-end situation and might not be what we want.

Cheers, Felix
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Hi John,

Let's do this:

If censorship in Russia scale to a country-wide Tor block, then you
can spin as many bridges as you can. What do you think?

Thank you!,
Gus

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On Tue, Dec 07, 2021 at 08:40:24PM +0000, John Ricketts wrote:

gus,

Since all of my exit nodes are within the same /16 - would I have to run bridges on newly acquired IPv4 space?

John

-----Original Message-----
From: tor-relays <tor-relays-bounces@lists.torproject.org> On Behalf Of gus
Sent: Tuesday, December 7, 2021 2:16 PM
To: tor-relays@lists.torproject.org
Subject: [tor-relays] Responding to Tor censorship in Russia

Dear relay operators,

Today the torproject.org was officially blocked in Russia. You can read more about the situation here[1].

Russia is the country with the second largest number of Tor users, with more than 300,000 daily users or 15% of all Tor users.

As it seems this situation could quickly escalate to a country-wide Tor block, it's urgent that we respond to this censorship!

We need your help NOW to keep Russians connected to Tor!

We are calling on everyone to spin up a Tor bridge.

If you've ever considered running a bridge, now is an excellent time to get started, as your help is urgently needed. You can find the requirements and instructions for starting a bridge in the Help Censored Users, Run a Tor Bridge blog post: Help Censored Users, Run a Tor Bridge | The Tor Project

Gus

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I can legit spin up 128 bridges. Let me know.

John

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On Dec 10, 2021, at 15:55, gus gus@torproject.org wrote:

Hi John,

Let’s do this:

If censorship in Russia scale to a country-wide Tor block, then you
can spin as many bridges as you can. What do you think?

Thank you!,
Gus

On Tue, Dec 07, 2021 at 08:40:24PM +0000, John Ricketts wrote:

gus,

Since all of my exit nodes are within the same /16 - would I have to run bridges on newly acquired IPv4 space?

John

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To: tor-relays@lists.torproject.org

Subject: [tor-relays] Responding to Tor censorship in Russia

Dear relay operators,

Today the torproject.org was officially blocked in Russia. You can read more about the situation here[1].

Russia is the country with the second largest number of Tor users, with more than 300,000 daily users or 15% of all Tor users.

As it seems this situation could quickly escalate to a country-wide Tor block, it’s urgent that we respond to this censorship!

We need your help NOW to keep Russians connected to Tor!

We are calling on everyone to spin up a Tor bridge.

If you’ve ever considered running a bridge, now is an excellent time to get started, as your help is urgently needed. You can find the requirements and instructions for starting a bridge in the Help Censored Users, Run a Tor Bridge blog post: Help Censored Users, Run a Tor Bridge | The Tor Project

Gus

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Sorry for this post but it pisses me off so much.

We now have terms and conditions how well known Tor relay operators are allowed to donate their own money in form of IPs, BW and CPU cycles without getting anything back?

If censorship in Russia scale to a country-wide Tor block, then you
can spin as many bridges as you can. What do you think?

Yes, I know of the family problem. Get a family in Guards. Problem solved.

Hi,

So we want bridges without contact info and from unknown persons / state agencies?

I am sure there is nothing with this excellent plan that could possible go wrong.

AFAIK, bridges weren't involved in the last attack. But, maybe others
folks here could have different evidences and, if they want to share
these evidences, they can contact me in private or send an email to
bad-relays@lists.torproject.org.

Regarding publishing contactinfo for bridges, here is the ticket:

It would help if more relay operators comment on that ticket supporting
the proposal.

Regarding MyFamily, there's a new MyFamily proposal that will include
bridges, please check this thread and spec:

https://lists.torproject.org/pipermail/tor-relays/2021-November/019954.html

Gus

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Regarding MyFamily, there's a new MyFamily proposal that will include
bridges, please check this thread and spec:

proposals/321-happy-families.md · main · The Tor Project / Core / Tor Specifications · GitLab
[tor-relays] [Looking for feedback] An easier way to declare families

the related issue discusses MyFamily bridge support

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Correct! Bridges weren't involved in the last attack thats why bridges will never be involved in a future attack in a highly dynamic environment.

You cant make this shit up.

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AFAIK, bridges weren't involved in the last attack. But, maybe others
folks here could have different evidences and, if they want to share
these evidences, they can contact me in private or send an email to
bad-relays@lists.torproject.org.