[tor-relays] Netcraft spam

Hello everyone,

at Nos-Oignons[1], we're getting spammed, not only on
abuse@nos-oignons.net, but also on our contact email, and so is our
hoster and its upstream but Netcraft[2]. Of course, we started by
diligently answering the emails, but now it does feel like a waste of
everybody's time. We told them we're hosting tor nodes, and that there
is little we can do to prevent morons from abusing the network and using
our relays for bad things™, but the netcraft spam keeps coming, annoying
everyone.

Is this something other operators have seen too or are we alone? If so,
is there anything that can be done to make them understand what's going on?

Than,s

1. https://nos-oignons.net
2. https://www.netcraft.com/cybercrime/countermeasures/

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Is this something other operators have seen too or are we alone?

You're not alone, they're desperately trying to advertise themselves
and you shouldn't give them any form of importance by replying to them.
In fact, they will probably discard your reply as the purpose of their
Spam is to advertise their crap rather than actually report a serious
problem.

but the netcraft spam keeps coming, annoying everyone.

Just filter them out?

is there anything that can be done to make them understand what's
going on?

You will receive a lot of garbage like this from people trying to build
themselves a reputation of Internet White Knight. Just send them to
trash.

Eventually, if it looks like the sender may read your answer, either
try to educate them. If they persist, you may do as we do, make fun of
their stupidity.

However, this may not work if you're not running your own network and
have a crappy ISP. In this case, you probably shouldn't host a Tor
relay at them.

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Some time ago I started publishing the regexes I run on my mailserver to drop spam like this. The criteria for showing up is that you have to repeatedly send garbage and not bother responding (or respond with disdain) to followups. Happy to accept patches to grow the list!

https://git.bitcoin.ninja/index.cgi?p=abuse-spammers;a=tree;h=refs/heads/main;hb=refs/heads/main

Matt

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On 1/9/23 10:20 AM, jvoisin via tor-relays wrote:

Hello everyone,

at Nos-Oignons[1], we're getting spammed, not only on
abuse@nos-oignons.net, but also on our contact email, and so is our
hoster and its upstream but Netcraft[2]. Of course, we started by
diligently answering the emails, but now it does feel like a waste of
everybody's time. We told them we're hosting tor nodes, and that there
is little we can do to prevent morons from abusing the network and using
our relays for bad things™, but the netcraft spam keeps coming, annoying
everyone.

Is this something other operators have seen too or are we alone? If so,
is there anything that can be done to make them understand what's going on?

Than,s

1. https://nos-oignons.net
2. Website, Domain and Platform Takedown Service | Netcraft

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but the netcraft spam keeps coming, annoying everyone.

Just filter them out?

is there anything that can be done to make them understand what's
going on?

[snip]

Would an autoresponder (with anti-loop precautions) be an option? Say, whatever replaced procmail? That would take the tedium out of it and still allow a form letter to be sent to the offending address.

/Lars

PS. Thank you in advance for not top-posting.

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On 1/10/23 00:01, tor-operator@urdn.com.ua wrote:

jvoisin via tor-relays <tor-relays@lists.torproject.org> wrote:

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