Hi,
Notes for relay operator meetup, Nov 20 2021, via BBB.
- Torservers.net reanimation
- Chat says "we're in":
- Nos Oignons
- DFRI
- Digitalcourage
- applied-privacy.net (would like to learn more about it/discuss
more)
- Discussion about what the purpose of TN was/should be (see below)
- One main goal of torservers umbrella is to separate the network of
Tor from the development of Tor, so having something like torservers
is important.
- One useful thing about torservers, from Tor's perspective, is that
when excited new people show up wanting to run a relay, we can ask
if they're nearby any of the orgs on the partner list and send them
there to get connected.
- Torservers has RIPE membership, so there's value in being able to
get/keep/move network blocks too?
- One of the original features of torservers was to take in funding
money, and divide it up across organizations that run exits.
- We could apply for funding to torservers.net -- or apply as any
other org, and then use the torservers infrastructure for dividing
it properly.
- torservers also in the past was useful at helping people find
lawyers in various European countries
- Next Tor activities in CCC rc3
- [rC3 2021 - NOWHERE] Meta-Call for Participation - CCC Event Blog
- Leibi really wants to see some more Tor *talks* at CCC this year. We
used to do great talks and it's been years since we did.
- Roger is not excited to try to do a speech into a webcam -- good Tor
talks need an actual audience. But discussions, like relay operator
meetups, work a lot better.
- We could drum up some talk ideas from core Tor people, and also from
other orgs in the Tor ecosystem. We could even glue together several
Tor mini-talks, starting from the state-of-the-onion content.
- Talk proposal deadline is *real soon now*.
- Announcements
- New Tor Forum! https://forum.torproject.org/
- Removing EOL relays and our EOL policy:
Relay EOL policy · Wiki · The Tor Project / Network Health / Team · GitLab
- v2 onion services deprecation:
Release 0.3.5.17, 0.4.5.11, 0.4.6.8 and 0.4.7.2-alpha
- I found it surprising that a tor service containing a single v2
onion (next to a number of v3 onions) refused to start after
upgrading to a new stable tor release.
- ^ The user experience in these situations is always tough --
if your Tor had started, but quietly not actually published
any v2 stuff, you would have been differently surprised. At least this
way you learned that it wasn't going to work.
- Run a bridge campaign
Help Censored Users, Run a Tor Bridge | The Tor Project
(there's a link to the community portal already, on "how to setup
bridges")
- Q&A and open topics:
- Internship to map and understand the relay operator world, values,
etc.
- As a precursor to a gamification project, or improving diversity,
etc. Read the project: Submit Outreachy project (December - March 2022) (#46) · Issues · The Tor Project / Community / Team · GitLab
- The internship is starting on December 2021.
- Debian stable package release process?
- deb.tpo stable package gets updated when it is included in a
Debian release
- The general policy that weasel has is: things only go onto
deb.torproject.org if they are already in some Debian. So that's
why there's a delay for new stable releases: they need to bake in Debian
sid before they're really in a Debian.
- Gman999 and others are reviving the TorBSD project, which includes
making sure relays work well on all of the BSD platforms.
- Activities in 2022
- Should we do irc meetings, or video calls and chat like this, or
other?
- some people like the video angle, because we see real people.
- next meetup is at CCC r3C.
- RPM packages
- kushal wonders: do any relay operator orgs use the tor rpm?
- no-one present is using it
Relay orgs present include:
- applied-privacy.net
- artikel10
- Calyx
- CCC Stuttgart
- dfri
- digitalcourage
- f3 netze
- nifty
- nos oignons
- torservers.net
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