Does connecting to your own Guard increase or decrease overall security?

I had also never heard of CyberBunker until now but reading over the wiki page I’m seeing that someone ran a MDMA manufacturing lab within a bunker which was then left vandalised, the company claimed to still operate from there yet the land owner verified they hadn’t been there since 2002 and the publicity publications were ‘all photoshop’.

Their second base was suspected of running 3 major darknet drug marketplaces along with numerous fraudsters. In my opinion I think the guys behind it are just basic criminals who create drugs, sell them online and then launder the money through a service used by people who don’t ask questions.

  1. 555 Sometimes I wonder if at least some of the government agencies do protest too much. After all, this is a good situation to set up your own anonymous infrastructure, hide behind the noise the public makes without the hassles of generating your own, and get some free research improving your own security. I thought a good (but like you said, hard to run) setup would be to run public entry, middle, and exit nodes with no links back to you and just route your traffic over these servers. The foundations that run the relays (and probably others) can be good fronts.

  2. But yet the most visible news about tor/related breaches are law enforcement actions. In China, it’s probably much worse. How do you hide from an authoritarian government? For democratic governments, if you or your service do something that the governments are interested in, the more your run it, the likelier you will get caught. Like you said, shit happens, running things anonymously are hard, and you make mistakes.

  3. Not just you. Your multiple levels of contacts. Make tripwires. Move often. Live on the run.

  4. 555 The news says the government wiretapped the entire ISP. Just don’t run your relays with questionable crowds; otherwise, you become more suspicious or otherwise get swept into the same bucket.

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This is also a good reason behind use of VPN, Tor is an open network full of random people with differing intentions and skill levels. As its open its more vulnerable to manipulation and no form of warrant would be needed, VPN networks are closed networks of company owned servers which require a warrant to access and if they’re bare metal RAM disk servers then even gaining access would give nothing as nothing is saved to begin with.

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An Anonymous no logging VPN is a good use, but don’t expect them to solve all your “issues”. There are some things to considder using VPNs. But this is something which is not related to this topic :wink:

I guess I got my answer, use trusted relays, if you host your own, use them. I only run one node so far, so I will use it :slight_smile:

Thanks everyone

The topic is about increasing security so in my mind it would relate to this topic. An anonymous VPN is basically Tor but without the need to trust random strangers

OK. Recognizing that this is probably off topics for the question at this point, but just to provide a useful link about VPN. This is from reddit’s TOR group (

This is a very frequently asked question we see in this subreddit. You
generally do not need to use a VPN in conjunction with Tor, and you may
even hurt your anonymity by doing so. However, a VPN may help if Tor is
censored by your network. Please see the Tor Wiki for more details.


You could only realistically harm your anonymity with a VPN if you use a pseudo anonymous one like Nord with a dedicated IP. If you use a truly anonymous VPN with shared pool IPs then hundreds of people will be using it so matching times and sizes won’t work. With a multi layer system the client IP would also be different from the IP given to the entry node, making it even harder.

Back to TOR,

if I consume only TOR sites, does it still help if I use my orn Guard as first hop ?

Yes because it doesn’t matter if you browse clearnet or onion sites through Tor.